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Mobiles for Freedom – 4
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Alright, let’s talk mobiles homes again today… It’s been a while since we discussed this topic and I promised you all some of the pro’s and con’s in the different configurations you will find when searching out these little gems. It may take me a couple of posts to get through this but we’l see how far we can get today…,
Let’s start at the beginning and kick off with the singlewide units or singles. The pro’s as I see them. Well, the price has to come in as this style home’s best attribute. I am currently in negociations on a singlewide for my BOL, or in this caseBugOutLand. If you recall I was looking at a single a few months ago that the owner was asking $19 or $20k, I offered her $9500, if my memory serves. That deal has not made any headway but I have since found an even better deal that the owner was asking $10k. I’ve formally offered her $2500 and she hasn’t officially counter offered yet! I don’t know how this will come out but she is at least thinking on it and I have a feeling that we’ll arrive at a purchase price of around $5-$6k. I’m not ready to give you all the details on that one yet but needless to say, if it comes together you’ll be seeing a lot more of that unit as I plan to do many posts on it to show you all exactly what a deal like this looks like from start to finish.
I digress, the cost of the singles is there very best PRO… Additionally, they have the benefit of reduced moving costs. The breakdown (this is the work needed to prepare the unit for its move) is greatly reduced as they are moved in one piece rather then multiple sections all requiring hands on hours of prep. Usually the mover will have to reattach the tongue and install axels and wheels to get everything underway. All of this is done on just a single unit and since these items are often rented from the mover, the fact that less is needed – less rental fees are charged.
The next PRO for a single is the site work… I’ll go into all of the specifics on what is required for site prep in a later post but for today’s purposes, lets just say that a smaller unit requires a smaller footprint to be prepped… Move time is also reduced since there is only a single truck needed or at worst a single trip to be made for your mover who will charge for not only the time required but an additional fuel surcharge or mileage fee will also be assessed depending on how far the truck or trucks will be traveling.
Another PRO for the singles I typically find is the square footage. Most of these homes are similar in square footage to a typical 2 bedroom double (around 850-1000 square foot). This coming with the reduced costs of a single…
Now let’s look at the CONS… It’s a single, so it will at least in the beginning stages be ugly! Like I said last time, the singles are usually seen as ugly since they are by design, long and skinny. Next, the layouts to choose from are typically rather limited and therefore the rooms won’t be wider then the 13.5 width of the home. This is not 100% true since I have seen 16 foot wide units advertised and been inside one a couple of years ago when I was doing research for a buyer that hired me to consult with him and help in finding a solid unit for his BOL. We haggled over price, which I’m know to do, but never got the seller down far enough to put a deal together. We eventually found this prepper another home to purchase for a tad over $13K and he’s been very happy with the house he chose!
Limited square footage is also seen as a CON by many folks. While I did say the square footage is a PRO for some of us, it is definitely a CON when the new owner needs more then the 1000 square foot that is normally the limit with a single. What about the size of the rooms? Yep, these would also be a CON, they are usually very small… Most of the singles are only 2 bedroom (which is another CON) and they will inevitably have a very small second bedroom. I do see lots of units that have a decent size master bedroom but never have seen a generous 2nd bedroom. Worst still (CON) is the three bedroom singles. Every room in the place is tiny since the manufacture has to divide all the available space into even more rooms.
Bathrooms, more often then not these would have to be seen as a CON. The best layout that I’ve seen in a single (in my opinion) did have a large master bath. I’m biased though since this is the layout we have at our BOL… The master bath, while larger then most, is still on the small side compared against many current stick built homes or even multi section mobile homes.
The largest CON (again in my opinion) is the lack of an adequate dining area. I’m sure that many of you, my fellow preppers, are guilty of the same laziness my family is… This being the laziness of making it a habit of eating your meals in the living room. Yes, yes, the prepper family does eat at the coffee table on many occasions but we do like to have the option of eating at the dining room table like any other civilized people. Our singlewide does have a small dining table crowded in to the kitchen but it’s not really useful beyond 2-3 people. I do not think this issue is a deal breaker but it is something of an issue if we wanted to entertain during the colder months where eating outside wasn’t practical. Additionally, we would enjoy having friends and family over to play cards. It’s even nice to have a full sized table to sit around and talk but the typical sized singlewide doesn’t provide enough square footage flexibility for that…
Ideally, all of these pros and cons should be taken into consideration when searching out that home you’ll plan to spend many years living in. Singlewides are an easy win on many fronts but that is coming from my families specific needs and where we’re seeing ourselves for the future. We all will have our unique needs that will have to be considered when making the purchase and its far better to be honest with ourselves before we make a purchase then after we have the home bought and moved.
I only got to the singles today so you’ll have to wait until next time to get the scoop on the multiple section homes. Think these ideas over and I’ll be back tomorrow to fill your head with a few more things to consider before you get out there and start beating the bushes for a home to call your own!
Prepper
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Bye Bye Blue…
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Faded blue paint color
Alright, I’ve needed to get back to the BOL project… Where did we leave off? You heard about the drainage issue and me getting the utilities all hooked up… I guess that brings us to some cosmetic improvements!
I’m sure being the highly sophisticated preppers that I know you are, you all noticed that our mobile home’s paint job looked like crap! Alright, so there I said it, but I know you were thinking it! We hadn’t been to worried about the exterior up to this point, with the exception of the “keeps out the weather” items. Which reminds me I have yet to deal with the whole roof issue – maybe if I ignore it, it will just go away? No? I didn’t think so either but hey you already know I’m a dreamer!
So, here we are with the ugly faded blue paint in the middle of a fairly picturesque location. Not cutting it… Mrs. Prepper and I had discussed the color options on several occasions, without coming to a firm conclusion. What to do, what to do… I know how about brown? Actually, we hadn’t came up with any other color that would be appropriate.
So we decide on brown, problem solved… Not hardly, did you know that brown comes in a lot of colors? Check out the brown’s selection next time your in Home Depot. Well, being the take charge kind a guy, I say lets get this one it looks great… Nope, I heard the voice of a wise older man in my head – “Choose a couple samples and then paint it on a section so you can really see the stuff before you decide”… You guessed it, it was the voice of my father. So not wanting to disappoint Dad, even though I was sure I had eyeballed the perfect color, we selected an alternate choice as well.
I had seen the commercial on TV somewhere about Glidden or Baer paint having the extra small cans of paint specifically for this kind of thing, try before you buy type a deal! When asked about this the salesman at the paint desk says that he doesn’t have those for my paint?? Which was Glidden I think. Oh, alright? – I think to myself and actually say out loud, hate when that happens? I keep looking around prior to making my final decision and what the heck do I discover on the exact opposite end of the counter from Mr. cooperative down there… Mini cans of paint that say the same thing as the commercial, “TRY ANY COLOR BEFORE YOU BUY IT”…
I quietly walked back down the counter to this pimple faced punk and grabbed him by the shirt collar. He was somewhat surprised at being man handled while generally just minding his own business…
Alright, this time I actually was thinking it in my head and not acting it out. Darn, good manners rule - Mrs. Prepper requires that I behave in public and since I married far out of my league I generally try to comply with her wishes… But she can’t control my thoughts – yet? Just teasing, she knows who wears the pants in the family – she issues them to me on an as needed basis!
Enough with the joking around, this kid said they didn’t have the stuff. I point the display out to him and sure enough… He maintains that it won’t work with, my paint? Alright, I give up – give me a gallon of each. I’m really not a cheapskate but this was already seeming to be ridiculous as I KNEW I had the right color and should just buy the stuff and have done with it! So out I walk with enough material and equipment to get moving on the paint project the following weekend when we got to the BOL. Enough of everything except the paint of course…
I’m going to jump ahead to that Saturday afternoon. We had pressure washed the exterior and were ready to get the paint selecting show on the road. Mrs. Prepper and I went to opposite ends of the wall. We each applied paint to about a 6×6 foot area. Of course I have the paint I had chosen as the perfect color on my end… I get the stuff rolled on and step back to admire my new home color! I’m looking at this stuff and thinking to myself “I’m not so sure that this is quite right after all”? Wait a minute… I remember you have to let it dry completely before you can tell how it’ll look… So, I put my roller down and walk over to the other end and see Mrs. Prepper doing much the same thing I was just a second before? I look at her color and low and behold it sucks too?
We decide that this can’t be right, 2 bad colors – Boulderdash! It must be that we’ll have to wait until the next morning to really be able to tell, yeah that was the ticket, wait until morning! We proceed to get everything cleaned up and put away for the night and head inside.
Well, as you will already guess, I get up the next day to find that it was a beautiful day at the BOL… Remember, they’re all BEAUTIFUL days at the BOL. Seriously though, we get up and get some coffee going before we go on out to have a look. A short time later I find myself standing next to the Mrs. and we are both just shaking our heads. I just can’t believe it? My color looks more burgundy than brown and the other color is best described as a light pumpkin… Not gonna work, no way no how – the old man was right again! I was very glad to have not rushed in and bought 5 gallons of this “Perfect” color! Back to the drawing board!
We had actually gotten alot of the chores done and much of the needed prep work so we could really paint the place the next trip over. This would mean that we would have to bring back some more trial colors and then make a run to the next big town to buy enough of our final color choice to get the job done. More trouble than I had expected but it would all be worth it to finally have a more earth toned house!
Needless to say we went with a much more “normal” milk chocolate brown color. We tried a couple and ended up with the color you are looking at now. Could we have gone round and round to find the PERFECT color, sure we could but this was what we went with. Not awesome but very acceptable in our eyes… You might be saying to yourself, “they should have stuck with the pumpkin color, cause that’s just ugly”… You’re entitled to your opinion but just remember, I also thought I could pick out a good paint color. You might just decide that a color like this is good enough after you tried 4 without getting it 100% right!
I guess that pretty much sums up what it took to get the paint job on the house. It was quite a relief to us to have it done finally. We made ourselves wait to address the cosmetics in favor of getting the less glamorous but necessary tasks completed first. Slowly we’re going to knock out all of our to do list but we can only do one thing at a time… There are more updates coming on the BOL but that’s it for this week… I hope you all have a great weekend and I’ll be back on Monday!
Prepper

Hello Brown
Utilizing the Utilities…
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Alright, where were we? I think I was telling you that I had made a few mistakes along the way. I suspect that I haven’t made the last of em either… Well, I know I needed to come back a step and explain what was required in getting the utilities all connected to our new home.

Where the water starts, the well head...
When I refer to the utilities, I mean the power, water and septic system… That might seem somewhat self explanatory but before getting into this project I hadn’t realized all the steps required to complete that.
Water and drilling the well are things we have already covered. However, how the water gets from the well or even the well house into the mobile home is a couple of additional steps. First, the water is pumped up and enters the well house through the floor. It then connects into our water system that travels to our utility water hydrants outside and then into the home. The entire system is pressurized through the use of a pressure tank inside the well house. This tank is kept pressurized by the well pump. Whenever the well pump is switched on, this happens automatically as needed when the pressure drops from use, the pumps pressure will recharge the pressure tank. This pressure tank creates the “water pressure” we all use inside our homes.
The next step in getting the water from the well house into the mobile home was running the water lines. These lines are how the pressurized system inside the well house gets extended to the home proper. As you would guess the water lines are buried down in trenches dug for this reason. The depth of these trenches is important, they must be below the local frost line. This is the depth to which the ground freezes in the winter months. As long as your lines are kept below this depth than you shouldn’t have problems with freezing up or bursting of the pipes. Just for example our trenches were 48 inches deep. We were told that 36 inches would have been alright but I felt better with that extra foot!
Another place that needs your attention when making the water connection is under the home. Typically the water line is trenched to just inside the skirting around the house. At that point it angles up out of the ground allowing it to be connected at the point designated by the manufacturer. It’s in this area from the ground up to the connection point, maybe a few feet, that your pipe may be exposed to the cold air under the house. Often the heat from the home will be sufficient to keep the exposed pipe from freezing. There are also a number of products that are made to assist you with this if you feel that its necessary. These would include electric heat tape and various configurations of pipe insulation. I chose to wrap our pipe with multiple layers of pipe insulation. This worked for us last winter which was quite cold and there was more often than not, very little heat from the house to help!

One of four perk test holes for the septic system
So now we have running water. That was a nice improvement and we were excited to have that system connected. However, the thing about running water is that it has to keep running… Through the tap, into the sink or tub and then down the drain… Oh, but its still running even after you can no longer see it. It must have somewhere to go! Surprise, the septic system. A marvelously simple system, at least ours was, for giving this running water somewhere to end up. In many areas the septic system has undergone a radical change. Some systems now require electric pumps and fancy control centers, etc. We were fortunate that ours only needed to be the more traditional style. That meant a 1000 gallon 2 chamber concrete septic tank and roughly 150 feet of drain field lines.
We hired our dirt guy to come dig what are called perk holes. Our county requires 4 holes be dug about 48 inches deep. The department of ecology will then send out their inspector to evaluate the holes to determine if a septic system can be approved for that location and of what design type they would require.
After the DOE has come and given their stamp of approval for your design then you are free to install the equipment. For us this required Mr. Dirt Guy to come back out and install the tank and drain lines. Once these were installed I was free to connect the house to the tank. This septic line also had to have a trench to accommodate running the line at the specific incline/decline required for good drainage. The last thing you want is to make a mistake while doing this installation. Fixing a problem of this nature after you begin using the system, well it wouldn’t be pretty.

Caps to access the septic tank for maintenance
The septic connection was made at a central point under the home also established by the manufacture. I didn’t have any trouble getting this all hooked up and running.
I had these both done and moved onto the next priority, which was the electric connection. This was again a fairly easy job but required care be taken so as not to electrocute myself before reaping the rewards of electric power to the BOL.
We had the meter base and power main already set. It is code where we are that this meter base be located not more than 30 feet from the home. It was just a matter of one last trench and a 3 inch conduit being laid to run the large gauge wire in. If proper care is taken to minimize the angles required in this conduit, the effort in pulling the wire can be greatly reduced. The manufacture had a convenient place to make the connection already in place, of course. It is a straight shot from the homes sub panel, located in the master bedroom closet, down to below the floor level. It took a little extra digging to get my trench directly below where the existing conduit came down from the house but easy enough in the grand scheme of things.

Meter base for feeding the house and well house
With the conduit in place, it was time to pull wire. We used what’s called a bull tape, like a mini tow strap, to pull the wires through the pipe! First you have to get the tape to run the length of the conduit. I had heard a tip that you can use a household vacuum cleaner to suck a plastic grocery bag attached to a string. This worked unbelievably well! Zipped right through with the string trailing behind. Simply attach the bull tape to the string and pull it through next. Followed next by the wiring. Now this took alot of elbow grease to get it pulled in. I had the neighbor outside feeding the wires down the conduit, while I was inside pulling for all I was worth.
A few hours from start to finish and we had power! It was exciting to have the last step in place and everything start feeling like a real house. Remember we had been staying in the fifth wheel up until this time. Nothing like a real shower after working in the dirt all day.

Power Transformer
We began using these systems as they came on line, as you would expect! With these all in place I turned my attention to the skirting we needed to enclose the exterior. You already heard about that… While framing in for the skirting I noticed a small puddle of water, at least I thought it was water under the house. Upon closer inspection it was directly below the septic line connection… NO, not leaking there? Yes, leaking there! Keep in mind we had been using the plumbing, including toilets for a couple of weekends by this time.
Well, back under I go to inspect this issue. The connection I made was fine, this is good news and bad! I had to open up the belly plastic to go looking for where the “Water” was coming from? After pulling a section open around where the pipe comes through, I found the problem. There was a fitting that connected the back bathroom drain with the one from the master bedroom. This is where the leak was coming from, right at where the connection was made. Now this is all good and fine to know where it comes from but now this joint had to be cut out and refit with a new piece. This meant I was working in tight quarters and unavoidably directly under the soon to be severed septic line.
We started by running a large volume of clean water through the drains. This helped assure that I wouldn’t be cutting a pipe with much black water, as its called. Whether it was true or not it helped psychologically. It turned out to not be to difficult of a fix after all. I needed to get a little creative with how everything got reconnected but this to was a good experience.
I continued checking this joint for as long after the repair as possible. Right up until i fully enclosed the area with the skirting. Problem solved, I think that the pipes must have been flexed in some way when they were disconnected for the move to our land. With stress on the joints it makes sense that they might not hold. I don’t anticipate having to go back down for round two, at least not at this joint anyway! Keep your fingers crossed, I know I am!
Alright, now we have everything back in timeline order. There’s still alot to tell in how this all came together and is still being developed but thats enough for today. I’ll be back tomorrow, see ya then!
Prepper
Home again, Home again…
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- Beautiful September Day
Well, we’re back… Its always a challenge to actually leave the BOL! The BOD, loves the place so much and just doesn’t want to leave. We hate to disappoint her so we end up staying as long as possible, which in turn gets us home late in the evening. No one can claim we don’t squeeze out all the hours possible on a weekend trip… We do it for the BOD though, not for us of course… Anything for that BOD’s happiness!

The brown makes it all but disappear in the trees
The weather is starting to turn and it won’t be long until we have to start leaving the heat on again or we’ll end up with broken pipes! We installed some irrigation drip lines this last Spring too, for the fruit trees we put in. Actually, I enlisted the help of my brother for the project. He’s an award winning landscape artist and is a real wiz with irrigation, we’re all very proud of his accomplishments. I get the usual family discount whenever he works for me. Parts plus “Free Dollars an hour” labor, it probably actually costs him money but hey with a brother like me, its worth it. So, what I was about to get to is I’m going to have to get those irrigation lines emptied and blown out prior to our first deep freeze as well. So many things to remember!

Roofing problems

All done!
As much as I like everything to go smoothly all of the time, these little set backs are good for teaching me the lessons while I have the hardware store and an income. I have extra parts put back now and the repair lesson as my guide, just in case this happens again. The only explanation for the failure is that the Thermal Cube was a dud? I decided quickly I wouldn’t be relying on any gimmicks in the future. I hate to rely on the grid for this need either but it’s what I have right now. I will have to figure something else out long term, maybe a small wood burner for once we get there full time? We’ll see…
I had a couple of projects to finish this weekend and also try to decide if the roof could make it one more winter. I hate to even have to risk it but it may be unavoidable. You can see that there are some spots that are looking REAL bad. I took alot of photos so I can get a roofers advise on what to do. If I have to put the roof on this fall it will be a new roof over the existing one. I have a real problem with doing this as it isn’t good long term and I HATE doing things twice… If anyone has some first hand experience with this dilemma, please email me, I would love to get some input!
I have had a real problem with actually getting my projects completely finished. Now I was good for 90-95% complete but if I didn’t get it done when I was initially working on it then it could go months before I’d be nagged, I mean encouraged, by Mrs. Prepper to get it done if I knew what was good for me! So this weekend was about tying up some projects.

Pretty Rough

