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Retirement, for the rest of us! 3
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I want to continue on the topic of retirement today. What are we really up against with this? Anyone ready to take a long hard look and admit that the future with or without the eventual economic collapse is not going to be the future we have all dreamed of? Well, let me rephrase that, it won’t look like most of us have believed… a few doomers out there are probably happy to have their dreams come true; economic chaos seems to be a really good time in some folks estimation. However, I like most of you have been working hard to get to the place where I can start “livin’ the dream”! Most of us will still have the opportunity to live the dream but that dream will require some revisions to fit into our new reality!
Last time I told you all about a few of my older relatives and the way they are living their retirements. I neglected to mention one specific relative that is actually living out a dream retirement. It wasn’t that I didn’t want to admit that the dream retirement did still exist but I really didn’t think of them because their situation is so different from the rest of the family. This relative is very much living the dream on many levels but we’ll see today that this retirement is quite fragile. I do not want to scare this person since they do read my work here from time to time and will easily recognize themselves! It is my most sincere hope that they continue to enjoy the fruits of the many years of hard work that were required to get them to this point. They deserve to live out all of their golden years in style and I hope they do!
With this in mind, let me describe this particular retirement… The couple I’m referring to consisted of two working adults. One worked for a county government in a midlevel position that allowed for above average to high earnings. The other was self-employed and received a modest salary but also enjoyed many tax deductions thus compounding their combined retirement savings abilities. They paid off a home in a very inflated real estate bubble area and then sold the home near the top of the market. This sale allowed them to build their dream retirement home and retire there in there sixties.
Shortly after retirement began one spouse past away, while still in their sixties. The surviving spouse (the previously self-employed one) was eligible to continue receiving the others state government pension. They are now living on that pension along with social security, life insurance and those unusually large retirement savings plans. Home is paid for as well as the vehicles! Assets are available to sell if they choose or they can sit on them.
Not a bad place to be right? More than enough retirement funds to live pretty much as you choose and enjoy the next 20 years, maybe more! Well, lets look at this a little deeper, shall we? After years of saving pennies and living a lot more frugal life then others in their income bracket might have, they reach retirement. Within the first five years one spouse is gone, fallen suddenly to a rare illness – literally here today and gone tomorrow (not really that quickly but pretty close). Great, the survivor gets to walk along that babbling brook alone, that was the dream right? Live out your later years as the survivor, without your spouse? Not quite but life happens and must also go on!
The way the retirement systems usually work is that if you are going to receive a pension when you stop working, it will often continue until you die! Sounds good except when you have a surviving spouse to think of. It is usually possible with a state level pension to opt for an alternative pension payout. If you set up your pension from the beginning to accept less monthly income while you are living, your surviving spouse can continue to receive your pension payments should you pass away first. While this is a smart route to providing for your spouse, many don’t take it because they need the higher monthly payment when they finally retire…
Let’s see, that’s right they had/have substantial savings; let me remind you all that they had the ability to save at this level because they had paid off their home. This savings while sizable wouldn’t last long if that was all they had. They chose to locate their retirement home in a desirable area. This decision requires high expenses and upkeep to maintain the home. That’s alright since it is paid off but the monthly drain is already wearing on the retiree. Social security payments come in monthly as well and are seen as extra, not really needed at this point but they come none the less! The last item was life insurance, this was an unforeseen windfall of course and I’m confident that most folks do not continue to pay into a life insurance plan once they reach retirement. Company paid life insurance plans would also stop when employment was discontinued. This insurance money, while welcome and potentially needed eventually, only comes at a much larger trade off of having your spouse lost prematurely!
Ok, so we have an out of the ordinary retiree and other then the loss of their spouse they are able to live the dream. Now, let’s look at the ways this retirement is vulnerable in the reality we are all living now and will continue to live in the foreseeable future…
Where does the money come from that is supporting this lifestyle I’ve just described? Anyone, anyone? That’s right largely from the government! The pension is actually from the State ofCalifornia; while any dependence on the government is sketchy to say the least,Californiais probably worse off than most. Highly indebted and admittedly close to bankruptcy, this pension is subject to forced renegotiation and or discontinuance in the future. We have begun to see the states discussing the cut back of their pension payments… Can they do this? My answer is, “does it matter what they can or can’t do”? They are beginning to and will do whatever they choose, with the people only left to deal with the consequences.
Social security, surely this is more secure then aCaliforniastate pension, right? Can you hear me laughing from wherever you’re reading this?? Social security is beyond broke, they are in debt to the public for more than they bring in each year, so they go further in the hole each and every year with no hope of a turn around. Yes, I will cash any and every social security check I am offered but I don’t think that counting on this federal boondoggle is a very smart decision, do you? While my relative has earned the right to accept these monthly payments and I’m glad they are getting to benefit from the system they participated in, I wouldn’t count on this as a retirement strategy for the long term. We’ve seen what government dependence has gotten folks in other countries, especially during chaotic periods in history like what we appear to be entering.
Private retirement accounts and savings… These are great and we should all be putting away whatever we can for the future. Over the course of this discussion I will show you that there are ways to save these dollars that are far more likely to pay a dividend then others but I think we can all agree that saving is always a good idea.
How we go about this retirement savings plan is very important! How can it be done safely and still pay a significant dividend? This is the question that each individual needs to ask themselves. If we save money in such a way that involves our employer then we need to realize we could be at risk of mismanagement or even worse deliberate fraud or theft. Much the same peril goes for anything like an IRA that is subject to the whims of government. We all know for certain that our countries leaders will only do what is in their own best interest! Something that might be helpful or safer for us is not at the top of their list of concerns! Sorry to have to be the one to point this out but their actions speak for themselves, we only need to look to history to see that in this chess game we are all nothing more then the pawns!
However we choose to accomplish our saving plan I suggest we keep at least a sizable portion of it under our direct control. We’ll then only have ourselves to blame if something goes wrong… How this is done is up for debate but each of us has an obligation to ourselves and our families to take a degree of control, our future is only as secure as we choose it to be! Even then the best laid plans are subject to the hard rules of life and whatever Mr. Murphy might have coming our way!
Most of you reading this are not as fortunate as my relative and will have far fewer options when retirement time comes around. I include myself in this particular equation too so don’t think I’m being unfair in my estimation of my fellow preppers… We have a system that does not favor us to begin with and economic forces that are working directly against us and our savings plans, whatever they might be!
As we continue to dig into this topic we’ll discover that we do have in our power the ability to wrestle control of our financial destinies from the forces that want the status quo! We’ll be making decisions today that will have a direct reflection on how we get to spend our retirement years. Each of us will choose which path we want to be on and then live with whatever comes at the end… Society has promised all of us the dream and I’m here to tell you it’s a dream few are going to realize! We have before us a series of choices that will give each of us the ability to grasp the life we really value or at least to a much greater degree. The sooner we make these difficult choices the longer we have to lay the groundwork for our own success!
I’ll be back soon to discuss these ideas further and hope to help you all see that there’s a better way! A way to stack the financial deck and give ourselves the edge we all need to win at this game and enjoy a retirement that few other will!
Prepper
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Retirement, for the rest of us! 2
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A week or so ago I brought up the reality of what retirement might look like for the majority of us… remember? Older workers doing jobs that they would have either wanted to leave behind or certainly should have had the choice to! Nope, the prospect of getting an old age work reduction is currently on the decline and the opportunity to see this trend turn back around in our collective futures is doubtful. If necessity is the mother of all invention then it’s got to be our acknowledgement of our own reality that helps us find out what our necessities really are! With this in mind, let’s go further in our discovery of where we are now so we can get a solid footing on what we can do about it.
As a side note… some of you have been with preppernation.com since the beginning and know me better than some of our newer readers do. Let me give my more recent readers a brief description of who I am so that it’ll be easier to see from what perspective I’m drawing some of my conclusions. I think that a lot of these conclusions are going to challenge what we’ve all been choosing to believe for a long, long time!
I’m a 40 year old, self employed man. I started my regular working career when I was 13, at least that’s when I got my first legitimate job with scheduled work hours. In addition to a “regular” job, I would also mow lawns, babysit and deliver newspapers… Not necessarily all of these side jobs at the same time but I was a busy and ambitious young man. My father would probably give a more colorful picture of my past, it would also be true but we’ll leave those past experiences out for now… Shortly after high school graduation I got a “good county job” like most people only hope to get, I spent 11 years there. The county was a great employer and I had a good salary and benefits… I left the “security” of the county to go out on my own and have been self employed ever sense. On one occasion I’ve needed to go back to an employed status but 90% of the last 10 years I’ve been completely self employed. I’ve seen both sides of the employment fence and spend a great deal of my time working with people of all ages. I’ve had good years financially as well as a few not so good. It’s with all of these experiences that I’ve come to the conclusions that I’ll be sharing…
Throughout the discovery process we’ll need to go through on this topic, I’ll be asking you all to do some homework of your own. I can do the majority of the research and bring it back to you here but you’ll have to see if my analysis is indeed correct. I assure you that my conclusions are accurate but it won’t be until you see these facts in your own life and the lives of those around you that you’ll be able to come to the same conclusions that I have for yourselves!
We all have more in common, than the ways we’re different, at least in what the future holds for each of us. No matter what age we are now we can all look forward 20, 30 or even 40 years to see what those that have gone before us have to say about our own futures. Just look at your parents or grandparents and see what they deal with financially. Are they thriving or trying to just make ends meet? If you don’t have a relationship with your older relatives then stop by a retirement home and see for yourself what that’s all about! When you do you’ll find people from every walk of life, these are the lucky ones. They have sufficient retirement resources to keep themselves fed and a roof over their heads.
Don’t misunderstand, that retirement home might very well be an option for you but I doubt it! I can think of lots of worse places to spend my later years, however at present this wouldn’t even be an option for me and Mrs. Prepper. Why not? These places are at least $3-5,000 per month, that’s why! Just a little quick math shows us that optimistically the expenses of a less expensive place will exceed 100K for just a 3 year stay… Maybe, if I squirreled away that magic 1 million in retirement funds I could run out the clock someplace like that? Remember this is an OPTIMISIC example, not the typical or taking into account the additional care that often comes with older folks!
Since I’m already 40 years old and wanting to work less then I am now, where’s that cool million going to come from? If I saved $5,000 per month for the next 10 years, I could be over half way there… This is NOT encouraging or reasonable! I know for a FACT that most of you reading this don’t even make $5,000 per month before taxes… I know this because I’ve done the research! The average American makes around $40,000 per year… I hear the scoffers but I don’t want to argue about this, if you are one of the higher income earners, that’s great – be thankful! I deal with financial paperwork for a living and ask LOTS of questions! Most folks look like they make a lot more money then they actually do! Let’s agree for the time being that a traditional retirement takes A LOT of money and I’m here to say few of us will have that money!
Now lets look at those older relatives again, how and where are they living? I’ll start with my own relatives – I have 2 living grandparents left and they are both living in retirement homes… I also have some older Aunts and Uncles that are living on small pensions to social security and sometimes combinations of both. Some live in their owned homes, while others are living with their children and still others are renting apartments. Everyone eats regularly and has a roof over their heads, we are a blessed family. What I don’t see in my family is anyone living the dream that we’re all promised in one fashion or the other during our working years. They’re all either broke or living wisely and watchfully on a fixed income.
I know what you’re thinking, what do we have to worry about? These folks are all doing ok and we’ll all be fine too, right! Wrong, all of these older relatives in my family – actually in every family, are from a time inAmericathat is fading fast. The time I’m referring to is the time where a guy can just put in the required number of years with a company and when they hit the right age, walk away with a pension check for the rest of his life.
First, not every company even offers a pension plan anymore. Second, more and more employers are going to something like a 401K plan. This type of setup is fine and might even be a viable option for a successful retirement as long as everyone does their part, which is far from guaranteed and given a sufficient number of years… Third, budget cuts have hit nearly every level of corporate America, employee benefit plans are an easy target for the chopping block. Even 10 years ago when I was still employed with the county and compelled to participate in a trade union, compensation ground was lost across the board every time a new contract had to be negotiated. Workers always seemed to vote for keeping the pay rates higher and losing ground in the area of benefits. Let’s face it, the status qou can not be maintained, cuts will be made and the benefits will continue to erode! Fourth, every level of government has continued with their irresponsible spending and they are now faced with the very real threat of bankruptcy. When, not if that happens, many government checks will fail to be printed. What could be worse then that would be if the Federal Government chooses to continue inflating the currency as their last ditch effort to keep those checks flowing… Unfortunately, as we are already starting to see, the purchasing power of those inflated dollars continues to decrease.
Next time we’ll take a further look into the areas that our current retirement system is vulnerable and how this will certainly have an impact on all of our future retirement plans!
To be continued…
Prepper
Retirement, for the rest of us!
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Welcome back to the ramblings of a man obsessed with the pursuit of freedom… As Americans we are all familiar with the quote from our Declaration of Independence that goes – “Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”. I believe that all three of the specific things listed in that quote could really be better summed up with “The Pursuit of Freedom”! While I’m not opposed to the quote as it is currently written, I just like mine better… The pursuit of freedom just has a nice ring to it. It allows for the reality that freedom isn’t going to come easy but we are free to pursue it. When and if we do reach freedom, it will be an accomplishment and something we will hold in high regard! What a worthy goal, Freedom…
Our nations founding fathers came to this country in the “Pursuit of Freedom”, not happiness but freedom! I believe that they knew inherently that happiness would come when they had found their freedom… It starts with Freedom and through that we find happiness! I think we all need to spend a little more time in the pursuit of freedom even if that means for a short time the happiness is put on hold! As stereotyped Americans we are all about immediate gratification, why wait for tomorrow when we can have it ALL today – “Just a low down payment and easy monthly payments… for the rest of our lives”! To often that is exactly what we end up paying for that perceived happiness – our lives!
I’ve mentioned a couple times that one of my major focuses going forward in “Preppernation” is going to be what I call “Retirement, for the rest of us…”. I know what some of you are thinking, what exactly does he mean by this? I mean that we are going to delve into what the future really has in store for us. We have no way to know for sure if we will or will not see a further economic collapse and if we do what it will look like… We could actually find ourselves living through an economic recovery before we get to that final flush that we do know has to come eventually but it might take 10 years or more to arrive… Can you prove to me that it will or will not happen? I didn’t think so… In light of this reality, the unknown, we need to discuss what our futures are most likely going to look like… Let me explain a little more of where this all is coming from and hopefully that will bring into view where this topic will lead us.
First, let’s clear up some of the retirement myths that we’ve all been spoon fed for far to many years! Let’s grow up and admit that retirement will not be like the brochure promised! It will not include lots of time on the golf course and walks along streams with our spouse hand in hand while the birds chirp! Yes, I will admit a small percentage of people may actually get to do those things but the percentage will be very small in comparison to the number of people that either never get to retire or live on nothing more than social security! Trust me, social security alone will not provide the retirement we all dream about… So what will retirement look like for the rest of us? I can’t speak to every person individually but I can tell you all what my research has taught me!
I can’t tell you exactly when I was jolted with the reality of what I’m about to share with you… I can say it was a few years back and approximately when the real estate downturn began to gain steam. My families finances began to decline, just like so many other sectors that were among the first to notice that this great experiment in alternate reality was beginning to unravel. I watched as arrogant high earners began to have to make lifestyle adjustments, McMansions and luxury cars were the first to go… Followed in many instances by the trophy spouses that could no longer be afforded either! Sad reality that what goes up must also come down, eventually anyway!
Like I said, it was during the real estate unraveling that I noticed or maybe I became aware of the retirement issue… Up until then I had my dreams about what I was wanting to do when the working years could come to a close and life was to be enjoyed – the pursuit of happiness! Now don’t get me wrong there is nothing wrong with having dreams about what this or that should look like or what we would like to do at some point in the future… That’s called vision and we all need to have a vision of where we want to get or we won’t have a prayer of getting there. We just need to be realistic with ourselves as to what it will take to achieve whatever it is we want. Sometimes we’ll find a creative way to accomplish our goal and other times we will need to revise our aim to something that is achievable with the tools we have to work with.
It was through these ponderings on mine and so many others new surroundings and the reality that a new level of creativity was going to be required, when I saw retirement as it really is, not what the boob tube and Suzy Orman have been telling us it was! While this was a new realization to me, the facts themselves were not new at all. Many people that were eligible for retirement, do not retire? The reasons vary but the theme is that the older worker just can’t afford to stop working? This happens across the board, the trades seem to be more obvious but I found a lot of older desk jockeys too! I bet if you look around you will find the same things that I found… The tire salesman that’s far older then what you or I would plan to still be working? Even worse is when the tire installer is an older worker, if a guy my age feels tired at the end of a long day, what could his quitting time feel like?
So we have the older workers, who can’t afford to retire. Who else do we see if we care to look? How about the seniors living far below the poverty line? In all honesty I have even written on an aging Aunt of mine that lives VERY well on a meager income but lets face it, that’s the exception – not the rule! Are these our choices if we don’t strike it rich and get to live our days walking along that romantic creek with our equally healthy vibrant spouse? Work until we die or are forced by our employer or our health to stop working? Sounds terrible but for every financially secure retiree that I saw and I did find them, they do exist, I found 100 that weren’t exactly “livin the dream”! Be honest, what’s your odds of living out your days as one of the 1% that I found to be financially secure?
This is where I’ll stop for today… Let the thoughts rolling around in your head right now process what I’m bringing up! My wishes are that each one of my readers is in the upper 1% and will get to live the life we’ve all been promised! If the reality is that financial security later in life will need to be realistically evaluated, then you’re in the same boat I am and we can discover together what we can do to take control of our futures in our own pursuits of freedom!
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Prepper
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BOOK REVIEW UPDATE – The 10th email I got asking for the book came in from a reader that was actually said if she got the book that she was giving it to a friend that’s been having trouble and she thought this might give her some ideas… Very cool idea! I do hope she reads it before handing it off. All the other folks that wanted the book, please try again next time and give some consideration to purchasing the book anyway, I’m certain it will inspire you all to do more with what you have like it did me!
Alternative Housing – Park Model RV
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Park Model RV

Park Model RV
As preppers, I know I would be restating the obvious by reminding all of you that we don’t really require a lot to survive. If we have food, water and shelter secured, the rest is just ways for us to improve on the same theme. Actually the food and water aren’t even that difficult to work out if we take care of it while everything is still relatively normal and available and no further away then the grocery store. Shelter though, this is something else, at least if you want to move past the tent in the National Forest plan. Don’t get the wrong idea, I own a tent and it does play its roll in my preps. However, like I have stated previously, I like to have walls and a ceiling surrounding me while I sleep.
Maybe, I have a personal bent on this whole housing /shelter idea because its interesting to me. What I do know for sure is that long term shelter, whether its your primary residence or bug out location is going to be one of the most expensive purchases/expenses that you will ever have or make. This would necessitate spending the most time in making your decision prior to getting started.

Slightly different angle
I truly believe that to survive in the long run we all need to work at being debt free. I know that there are folks that can afford the fully stocked missile silo retreat but most of us are much more limited… I want to regularly be proposing alternatives for the rest of us to consider. You’ve seen what I ultimately chose for my family, the mobile home. This however may not be the right choice for you, I don’t want anyone to think I have all the answers or that my way is best. It is only best for me and mine, you and yours will have to make this decision for yourselves. I just want to help educate you with what I have found on my personal journey of discovery.
So, today I thought I would tell you about the “Park Model RV” that we spent some time investigating. These are the RV’s that are only RV’s for legal purposes. They require much the same process to move as a mobile home would. Pilot cars, over sized load signs, height considerations, etc. They are kind of a cross between a mobile home, cabin and RV. Only similar to an RV as they are extremely space efficient. These efficiencies are really cool to me, no wasted space but space for everything. Must be a personality thing with me as this is something I have always liked about boats and campers, ect.
These homes are restricted in square footage so they can maintain their designation as an RV. They have to stay under 399 sq. feet and can’t be more than 12 feet wide. Now something that I found interesting is that if they have a covered porch on either or both ends, this footage doesn’t count in the total? Not sure how that can be but it is what was explained to us. Pretty cool loophole to get extra footage!

Slightly different angle
These homes are restricted in square footage so they can maintain their designation as an RV. They have to stay under 399 sq. feet and can’t be more than 12 feet wide. Now something that I found interesting is that if they have a covered porch on either or both ends, this footage doesn’t count in the total? Not sure how that can be but it is what was explained to us. Pretty cool loophole to get extra footage!

Opposite end of the house
These are really built just like a conventional stick built home or cabin. They have 2×4 or even 2×6 walls and trusses for the roof just like most homes. They are weather proofed and insulated the same way as well. A number of the manufacturers even have taped and textured sheetrock interior walls. There isn’t much of a difference other than the foundation is actually a large trailer frame. Even this doesn’t have to be a detractor if we look at this from the standpoint of the county property tax savings. This is an RV so it would in my opinion be exempt from real estate taxes. The fact that you wouldn’t be planning on moving it doesn’t change the fact that its an RV, just like if you had a actual motorhome sitting on your lot… Big bonus in my book!
The feature that had me seriously considering this for long term was that everything is full size. The appliances, including laundry facilities are the same as in a regular home. Bathroom fixtures are the same, full size shower or bathtub. No cheapo entry doors, same doors as at my house… This is a really cool setup…

Opposite end of the house
The feature that had me seriously considering this for long term was that everything is full size. The appliances, including laundry facilities are the same as in a regular home. Bathroom fixtures are the same, full size shower or bathtub. No cheapo entry doors, same doors as at my house… This is a really cool setup…

Front door
Now, the downside! Everything is full sized but still not allowing more than 399 sq. foot? This means the floor plan, as much as I appreciate what the industry has been able to come up with, is SMALL. I think its viable for a single or even a couple with a good marriage, patience would be required! For a family, not gonna cut it! These would be great for a family as a weekend place or maybe short vacation but everyday, just to small. I think that in a situation like TSHTF, nerves would be frayed already so the cramped accommodations wouldn’t be a help. This is all considering that you are prearranging the whole thing and not just having to settle for whatever you could get because in that case this would be a “something is better than nothing!”
There are many manufacturers of this style RV, they have been around for many years. Having only more recently made the jump to house like construction from a real boxy like RV style of the past. Still had some cool features but not real attractive to me, like they are now! As with anything built for the consumer market, there are different prices and quality of construction. We looked at the homes made by traditional RV manufactures like Fleetwood, Alpenlite and Breckenridge as well as an independent builder.
The quality of construction is a glaring difference between the mass produced product over the independant. Although the big guys product looked good and was of course decorated to look like a cabin in the woods… It felt cheaper and lower quality overall. This is just my opinion after seeing what the independant was offering as competition. If one of you has one of these places, I’m sure it is more than servicable but I just preferred the other product.

Front door
The quality of construction is a glaring difference between the mass produced product over the independant. Although the big guys product looked good and was of course decorated to look like a cabin in the woods… It felt cheaper and lower quality overall. This is just my opinion after seeing what the independant was offering as competition. If one of you has one of these places, I’m sure it is more than servicable but I just preferred the other product.

10 inch I beam trailer frame...
The other drawback with any of these products is the price. Now both are relatively cheap as opposed to buying or building a house but still pricey in my book. The mass market homes we looked at were in the range of $40-50,000 and the independent was between $60-70,000. This did include the move to the site from the factory… Not gonna happen with this Prepper. At least not in the traditional fashion, me paying for them to build me one…
In a future post I want to discuss the possibilities of an owner built Park Model, you all need to think this over for yourselves and I’m sure each county tax office has there own take on the exemptions they allow for RV’s. Part of self sufficiency is the aspect of having a lifestyle that you can afford on little to no income, at least in my eyes! None of us knows what the future holds and having a paid for home or bug out location that isn’t going to require much tribute be paid to the county government for the privilege of living on our own land is something we all need to keep in mind.
I ultimately chose a different path for our BOL but this is one of those “Gets ya thinkin” type of products… The photos today are of the independant companies product. I apologize for not being able to get pictures of the inside as I had planned to get their location before they closed last night but was unsuccesful. They are a couple of hours from me and so I can’t just drop in unless I happen to be in the area, like I was yesterday. These picture will give you the overall idea of what I’m talking about when I bring these up!
I hope you enjoy contemplating this topic, I know I have! As usual I ask you to continue spreading the word about “Prepper Nation”. Until tomorrow…
Prepper

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Retirement, what retirement?
Posted by: Prepper | Comments (1)Let me start out the day with thanking everyone for their patience with me yesterday. I tried to get back to everyone that emailed me with questions on what they were seeing on the site. Sometimes the pages were there and sometimes they weren’t? I’m learning quickly but still have a long way to go in working out the technical details of all this stuff.
Also, if you are a subscriber and did not receive the email with your password to the “Subscriber Pages”, please send me a quick email and I’ll get right back to you! There are only a few items in the Swap Meet area right now but I have a lot of others to add, so check in that area from time to time. If you are wanting to put anything up for sale, just send me an email and we’ll get you setup!
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I have been pondering this whole “Retirement” issue for almost as long as I’ve been working. Yes, I’m a youngish man (38) and so I’m no where as near a legitimate retirement age as some of you but it seems to be what we are all working towards, so I do think about it often!
First, what does “Retirement” really mean? Is it that magic age when we have worked for a company long enough to qualify for a pension? Is it when our investment advisor calls telling us we have reached the total of 3.25 million dollars that they always seem to expect we will need to actually live out the rest of our lives? Maybe it’s the year we get to sick to work anymore and have to choose between eating or taking our medications? What is retirement to you? I know that we won’t actually find a single answer to this question because I don’t believe that there is only one answer!
I’m just going to take a shot at this and share some of my thoughts on what it means to me, at least at this point in my life. Like I said, I’m only 38 years old but like most of you I have been working “full-time plus” all of my adult life. Actually, I was one of those ambitious youths of yester-year who went looking for ways to make money from a young age… I was mowing lawns for family friends starting at about 10 years old, newspaper routes, then babysitting at age 12 and a real after school job (paid cash under the table, of course) working for a nursery wholesaler when I turned 13. All of this done with the blessing of my folks who have always been hard working entrepreneurs themselves.
So, as far as my basic math skills will allow me to add these years all up I have been working/earning in some fashion for over 25 years. Yes the full time job has only been 20 of those years, so I can’t compete for sympathy with all you old-timers reading this. The point is how many years do we have to work before we are allowed to feel entitled to slack up or even “Retire”?
When I was growing up, I recall there being companies that would give a pension to a worker after they completed 20 years of faithful service… Not a bad deal, if it was ever true and I don’t know first hand if it was? I do know that when I worked a county government job, we were part of the Washington State pension program. This retirement program was as close to a true pension program as I have ever heard of. You would work to what ever calculated/negotiated age and years of service and than you became vested. This vested status would allow you to either take or be eligible to take a retirement pension check at some point in the future. Also, not a bad deal, if you have the ability to deal with all the politics and games that come with government or large company employment. I didn’t have the patience for that and only worked for them 11 years! That’s right ONLY 11 years, so no big payout coming down the road for me… Shucks!
Truthfully, there wouldn’t have been a big payout coming down the road even if I had stayed! That’s why I left a cushy, under-worked – overpaid government union job for the hazards of self-employment! I was told by co-workers that I was making a big mistake but I left anyway. I do miss the paid vacation, holidays, sick and comp-time days off, the medical insurance was pretty good too but it was all those years of my life being sucked down the crap hole that I just couldn’t tolerate!
I went to work for this particular employer when I was 19 years old and wouldn’t have been eligible for my pension check until I was 67 or with an early retirement PENALTY if I bailed out early at 59.5 years of age. That’s right, I was fortunate to get a good J-O-B, when I was 19 and I stayed as long as I could and remain sane. The carrot they dangled in front of me was enticing, at least to young man. A pension check of up to 60% of my working wage, when I turned 67 years old…
If you are just reading this and not doing the math, let me help you… I would have to work until I was at least 59.5 or 40YEARS, to be eligible to collect a penalised pension check… I thought for a number of years that this would be the course I would take. That was until I found out exactly what the PENALTY was for daring to take an “Early Retirement”, after 40 YEARS of service. They were going to reduce the percentage of my wage from the full potential of 60% by 2% per year that I left early. So that would be 60% minus 17% to equal a maximum of 43% of my then current wage!
Yes, I made relatively good money on payday and extremely good money for the amount of effort that I had to put in every day. It wasn’t the work, it was the time that killed me! It wasn’t even the 43% pension calculation, still a good deal to be able to collect a check for the rest of your life. Unfortunately it was the required attendance at a J-O-B for 40 or more years to be eligible to play that game.
Next, I discovered the 401K retirement route. This is a great option – for the employer! If we the workers put money in the 401K then and only then do the employers have to contribute some of the companies money to your retirement account. I have spoken to many people over the years that when questioned about their retirement, they explain that their company has a 401K program! However, when I ask how much they are contributing to the their account, they hem and haw. This says to me that they aren’t participating and therefore the employer isn’t either. So that eventually come to a bottom line of they will not have a retirement account!
Sticking with this 401K account for just a few more minutes, let’s look at how the plan works? If you and your employer DO contribute to the plan, what happens to your money? It typically goes into some sort of investment account right… I agree, as close as I can tell that is where it should be going… This account has certain tax advantages and to play this game by the rules, the money stays safely put away for that mystical day in the future when we might retire. The basis for this plan is also age based…
Now, I know you’re thinking we all have the options to handle these things on our own through an IRA or something similar. Skip the employer angle and we can just take care of our own investments and be self reliant. Yes, I agree we should all be self reliant but even with an individual retirement account, we are still held to the age based requirements of grave edge withdrawals… I say this somewhat in jest as I know that 59.5 or even 67 years old isn’t the graveyard’s gate for most of us in America. If you do your own calculations against the average life expectancy now days, we are not many years away though? I believe I read that 73 years was the average age of death for an American male.
Lets say we all had the option to retire with a pension check at 59.5 years old, that would be 13.5 years before the statistics show most of us would have checked out. I don’t know about you but if I’m going to work for 40 years, I’m going to need a bigger incentive than a poverty level pension check monthly for the next 13 years. When we look at what that pension check will have to be stretched to pay for, what will we have left? The only thing I see being left over at the end of that check will be a whole lot of MONTH!
I don’t want to sound to depressing and I do have some ideas on what can be done to improve our situation both now and in the rapidly approaching future. Stay turned for part 2 tomorrow!
Prepper