I’ve been sitting on some of the readers questions as I’ve continued to find myself over committed in my daily life. This summer has left me feeling a little behind the eight ball as far getting anything much done beyond the daily requirements. I appreciate the continued support of my readers in stopping by to check for updates and I do plan to have them more often, at least as often as possible!

   One of the questions that I received a few weeks ago was from some long time preppers with a serious question on their minds, I’ll post a quote of the question as it also has a bit of background information…

“ My Husband and I are preppers from a long time ago . Medical bills from an accident impelled us to get out of debt so we sold our old place and now have a new place.

How would you go about finding like minded folks to come and share living expenses while preparing for hard times?

We are hard working folks with many skills on an acre of land with a well. We plan to convert to off grid, raise 90% of our food (which we used to do). Its a rent based community in a rural area.

Our experience thus far…unrealistic expectations from people who have no work ethic, skills and want it all for free.

Still, we know that more hands at the wheel is better for survival.

Any advice for us older preppers would be appreciated.”

   Well, I spent these last several weeks going back and forth on what I wanted to say in response to this question… It really is a harder situation than what it appears at first glance.

   As preppers we struggle with the idea of OPSEC as well as issues with public ridicule and scrutiny. So where does that leave us when we have a legitimate need for some help? Usually at a loss! The question as it is presented doesn’t come as much of shock as I think we could all agree that the collective work ethic of many of countrymen, especially the younger ones, leaves something to be desired! There is a real sense of entitlement or “Something for nothing” ingrained in the citizens of our nation. To be fair this is probably the case in most of the developed nations. Regardless of how far this mentality reaches it’s a real issue here in America and doesn’t leave alot of choices when it come’s to finding hard working cooperative folks to throw in with for hard times…

   I’ll go ahead and share the things that I came up with and hope that if these don’t work for all of us, maybe they will get every one’s mind turning and a solution might turn up in an unexpected place for these particular preppers!

   If I were in this situation and help had to be sought to run a farm or retreat property, where would I look…? Personally I would start at church! I believe that this is often a great place to look for many of the solutions to life’s problems. While I realize that this suggestion isn’t going to apply to everyone, I still think it bares consideration. Even if you don’t attend church or maybe you don’t even believe in God, most would agree that the level of integrity is often higher amongst regular church attenders. WAIT! Don’t touch that tar bucket and please put those feathers down! We all either have experience with or have heard of people being bilked out of fortunes or in some other way mistreated by church parishioners or even church leaders… I agree a sad reality is that it is still our own responsibility to check out even those folks we may meet in an otherwise safe venue… Just like we have all seen those spectacular plane crashes on the news, the truth is for as many planes are in the air each day, out of each year – VERY FEW fall out of the sky! I propose that this is also the case with most church goers, Christian or otherwise, imperfect people but generally honest to deal with.

   I don’t suggest that anyone just march into church on Sunday morning with an announcement that they are preparing to survive the end of the world as we know it… A more subtle approach would probably be better! Many churches have “Small groups” or their particular variations on the theme. These groups often are composed of church members with similar interests. The church I go to has over a hundred of these groups with a wide range of interests covered. I even saw one group called “Mothers with Guns”, a group of ladies that get together at the shooting range for fellowship and to throw some lead down range. Other groups I’ve seen included disaster preparedness, it appeared that this group was more of the flood and or earthquake type of thing than hard core TEOTWAWKI. Then there are of course the food bank or food pantry’s that are often operated by many churches, these may turn up like minded individuals.

   Alright, so you don’t dare step inside a church… You might just rethink that but for the sake of argument I’ll respect your decision… How about a social club or organization? Elks, Eagles and any number of other organizations meet, even in the smallest of towns. Possibly a contact could be made with some member that is well respected but in need of the kind of assistance you have to offer in exchange for the work or help you require? Under most situations in the country lifestyle, the areas that an older prepper might find themselves lacking or seeking assistance with wouldn’t be an unusual request…

   Another option that I thought I would definitely explore if the time ever came for me to need assistance would be the Boy Scouts of America. While I have a daughter and she never got into the scouting activities I know that the organization is still very much alive and I would suspect going strong in the small towns. There are some scouting advancements that require acts of service, community or otherwise. It might be possible to arrange for a Eagle Scout contender to come and perform some services for you on your land. I have also heard of entire troops taking on projects for needy individuals. The idea of any of us falling into the category of “Needy” might not be exactly accurate but it might be worth a little investigating to see what could be arranged.

   I realize that the original question was looking for a longer term solution for the issue outlined but I’m kind of taking a more broad approach in hopes of getting more ideas in motion… It might be possible that a young person could be found that has a need of room and board while attending college in your area? If you were to couple your search for the right young person with their past participation in scouting or 4H, could not only help you locate the individual but also give you clues as to their work ethic.

   I’m sure that many readers have their own ideas of what might be the ideal place to search for qualified, hard working individuals but these are the places I came up with. I believe that any of these places are worthy of consideration but the one single place I would exhaust first would be family. It wouldn’t matter if it were close family members or extended. If the appropriate individuals could be found someplace on the family tree, it would be preferred – at least in my estimation! The old saying, “Blood is thicker than water”, has always proven itself to be true in my experience. Many people have very broken and damaged families with little common ground on which to build, if that’s you by all means continue your search in the other places we’ve talked about. Otherwise, I would spend a bit of time researching who might already have skills or even lack skills but have needs that would fit with the situation your facing. A hard working great nephew with no country skills might turn out to be a better fit than a locally raised ner’do well from town… Skills could be taught to a grandchild in exchange for their doing most of the heavy lifting that has gotten to be to much for you…

   When I was growing up my father had a saying that he lived by, it went something like this – “If every transaction isn’t a win/win than everybody loses”! While it won’t be easy and it might even take a few tries to find that satisfactory matchup, in the long run I believe there’s probably an answer for those among us that need additional hands to complete the chores around the homestead. I encourage others to chime in with additional ideas if they think of something but I do hope these initial ideas are helpful!

Please continue to send me your questions and I’ll do my best to answer them as quickly as possible!

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   Well, here we are again and I was just alerted by my daughter that Summer is nearly half over…? How does this always seem to happen, we start out with ambitious plans of all the things we would like to get accomplished during the warmer dryer months, only to find ourselves just as short of time and money as we were during the colder wetter ones… Anyway, I have recieved a couple questions from readers and I’ll address them today!

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Question #1   -   “Why .45-70 caliber?”

   This question came in right after the “Tacticool vs. Practicool” post and so I will assume it was referancing the photo in that article… Let me first address this question with an additional photo -

Enough said?

  That’s right… The little one is a 9mm, next is a .44 Magnum and of course the big boy is my newest caliber, the .45-70. Since my plan is to be moving to the country in the not to distant future, I may want to either add some “Country” guns or like I ended up doing, selling some of my overstock to trade for those new additions I had been thinking of. Yes, the AR’s will work just as well in the woods as the they will in the city but something about the lever action carbines had been calling to me and it would seem they would be more at home leaning in the corner of the kitchen than a black rifle might.

  I already was a fan of the .44 Magnum and it has been my choice for hauling along when we are out on the trail. So, initially I was thinking to add a lever gun in the same caliber. This would make sense and keep the calibers needing to be stocked to a minimum… Well, as I did some further investigation into what configuration and manufacture I would end up purchasing, I found the Marlin Guide Gun… It was love at first sight and it was even available in a stainless finish – PERFECT!

  I checked around the web, looking for anything that I could find that might deter me from purchasing this rifle – nothing negative to be found! I saw a multitude of videos on youtube of happy Guide Gun owners firing their weapons. SOLD, I had to add this to my collection. The area or purpose I had in mind for this gun was obviously at the BOL, not that it would live their exclusively but in the long run that is where I saw it.

  Originally, one of the catalyists for purchase was the sighting of a cougar on our land this past spring. While I knew it was around, as well as black bears too, the fact it was actually seen told me that I needed to take more care in keeping a substantial firearm handy! After taking stock of my current collection and not finding a hands down winner that I wouldn’t feel a bit conspicuos carrying around the place if a neighbor happened to come by, I clearly saw the NEED for another gun to be added… With me current holdings, I never imagined that I would find such a blatent hole in my collection to justify another gun purchase but there it was!

   The .45-70 cartiridge has been around for over 100 years and still has a solid following. With Marlin offering their “Guide Gun” in this cartridge, it also told me that it would be more than sufficient against my expected game. I don’t often find myself in the woods with grizzly bears but armed with this firearm, I’d be confident of my ability to protect myself. As a prepper, I like to keep my options open and a gun that is capable of killing grizzly sized mammals would certainly handle the lowly MZB without much trouble at all…

So, this was my train of thought on and how I arrived at the .45-70 for my “Country” or “Practicool” gun needs…

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Question #2   -   “Aren’t you worried that he or they will return. Now that they know what’s there?”

   This question came in responce to my post on my BOL being broken into… Well yeah, I’m concerned that the low down scum suckers might come back for another shopping trip at my place. What can I do though? Abandon the property and BOL project? Nope, the same security threat that I have at our place in the sticks is faced by us at our home in town as well.

   We are kicking around the idea of adding a few surprises… No, there won’t be a shotgun hanging precariously in front of the window poised to fire as soon as the ner-do-good burgler pokes his head inside. This would be illegal -wink,wink! Seriously though, we’ve thought of adding several digital game cameras around the house. The neighbors have also offered to allow an alarm to go off at their place if we can figure out how to make that work. We have ADT alarm company at our city home but with the distance from town to the BOL, the place would be completely gutted before the County Sheriff would be able to get out to follow up on any monitored alarm system…

  On to the second part of the question – “Now that they know what’s there”. This is important, they don’t know what’s there! They only know what they saw in the house… They already took the items from the house that they wanted. While this doesn’t assure me that they wouldn’t return to see if there is anything new to steal or even take additional pairs of underwear, I doubt they’ll be back in the near future.

   The only hint of other potential goodies being around that the burgler may have taken note to would have been the ammunition that they left behind. This was one of the confusing things that was left behind? With the price of ammo these days, I would have expected them to have grabbed the stuff? Oh well? So, they may realise that they found the home of a potential gun owner but I would think this fact might be a deterant to coming back…

   Other than the stuff they discovered in the house, they have no idea what else is on the property. I wish that there were some way to add additional security but I think I’ve done what I can. Like we have discussed here and on most other prepper sites, any BOL that isn’t occupied full time is going to be at risk and mine is no different, unfortunately!

   My advice would be to only store the items at your BOL, that you would be willing to lose… This sounds as though you wouldn’t want to store anything there. While a thief might strip the place clean, it is more likely that they will do what they did to us – pick through and take only the items that are easy to carry and have some potential value or at least value to them (such as my underwear??). Consider caching the true valuables nearby rather than leaving them unsecured inside the home or cabin… We have a couple of cargo containers but even these are subject to breakin if the thief is highly motivated… I think that a middle ground can be found that will allow you to enjoy your retreat property while still maintaining a high degree of security over your hard to replace valuables…

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   I realize that since there has been a significant break in my posting activity, it will take some time to get myself and everyone else back in the swing of things. I appreciate all of the supportive emails I received inquiring as to my state of being. Yes, there was even the one checking to make sure the black helicopters hadn’t “PAID ME A VISIT”? While I’m no fan of mine or any other current government, I walk a pretty straight line when it comes to saying anything overtly inflammatory! What I was leading up to was that I recently asked for you guys to start sending in your questions and topic suggestions again. These are coming in slow but I do have one for today…

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Question -     “You’ve been planting fruit trees at the BOL, exactly what varieties and why?”

   Well, yes I have been ramping up my orchard… The term ramping up would be seen as very subjective as many “preppers” have actual orchards full of trees which would make my holding almost insignificant. To add a little encouragement to this post I need to explain that it has taken me the better part of 15 years to actually start this orchard. I originally purchased BOL property with my good friend back in the early 90′s when I was in my 20′s and largely financially challenged. It had been my dream to have those fruit and nut trees that we all have read about in the descriptions of a real BOL! Unfortunately, fruit trees require water and ideally irrigation to grow. In my area of the state, water wells are deep and expensive (see my post about the experience I had putting our current well in - The Deep Dark Hole). Needless to say, I wish I had started this project at a much earlier date but the cost of the required water was prohibitive, especially for a young man just starting out in life… I thought I had done well to just secure a piece of land!

   Anyway, let me get back on track… It wasn’t until last summer that I finally started the tree planting and now I just can’t stop… Originally, last summer, I planted 3 apple, 3 cherry and 2 pear trees. These all made it through the winter and seemed to be healthy in the spring. With the new expansion to my irrigation setup, I planted those 8 additional trees a couple weeks ago – 2 apricot, 2 plum, 2 peach and 2 nectarine. Well, like I said this is getting to be addictive… Last weekend we went over again and I couldn’t help myself, 2 more apple and 2 more cherry trees went in the ground.

   If you remember my last BOL update, I mentioned that my brother had brought me a nice blueberry bush as a gift, well I added 4 more last weekend as well! Oh yeah, last summer I planted 2 experimental raspberry bushes. These were both doing exceptionally well, so I added 2 more last trip too! This brings us to 5 blueberry and 4 raspberries bushes total. Now all of these plants might sound like I have a small fortune in the ground? Quite the contrary, while I have seen people post about getting trees for VERY cheap or even free, I paid between $1.99 and $23.99 per plant and most of them were on the lower end of the spectrum… I think that a close guesstimate on total out of pocket for 20 fruit trees and 9 berry bushes comes in less than $450 dollars, that is full price (not discounting expense for the several that were gifts!).

   Yes, some money had to be invested and $450 isn’t chump change to my family right now but that’s the nature of an investment… I expect my ROI (return on investment) to be in the area of incalculable! We purchase quite a bit of fruit at our house and do watch for bargains but the cost of fruit is significantly higher than junk food items. These trees will payoff the first year of true production, if not before!

   Alright, the varieties I planted were from the recommendations of a local nurseryman. I purchased most of the trees from him so that they would have been raised in and appropriate for the area that I was replanting them. The recommendations he made were for the hardiness and pollination requirements. Since I wasn’t going to be planting every variety of tree he carried, it was important that all of the particular types of trees would pollinate the others in their respective category. The following is a list of the specifics as best as I can recall –

Apples –

   Honey Crisp (2)

   Winter Banana (1-pollinator)

   Yellow Delicious (1)

   4-way tree (1- gravel stein, gala, yellow transparent and yellow delicious)

Cherries –

   Bing (1)

   Rainier (2)

   Montmorency cherry (1)

   Stella (1)

Pear –

   Auju (1)

   Bartlett (1)

Nectarine - (2)   I can’t recall these specifics

Peach – (2) I can’t recall these specifics

Apricot –

   Tomcot (1)

   Harglow (1)

Plum –

   Shiro (1)

   Santa Rosa (1)

Blueberry –

   Bluejay – (2)

   Bluecrop (2)

   Olympia (1)

Raspberry –

   Red (2)

   Black (2)

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   I haven’t done a readers questions post in a couple of weeks so I’m going to knock out a few today… For all the new people that have been joining us lately, I receive a lot of emails from readers with questions about something we’ve been discussing. Sometimes I will just send an email response and bthat’s it but other times the answer is worth sharing with the group. So, if you have something you want clarified or expanded on, send me an email!

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Question #1 -     “After the bare bones guns are acquired, what’s next?”

   I received a number of responses to the “What’s in your gun cabinet” post. Most people agreed with me to the larger extent but several asked this question or one similar… Once we have these basics covered, what do I think should come next?

   Well, that’s pretty subjective! I’ve already said that I once was a “more is better” guy when it came to firearms, I guess I still am to some degree. After you have the basics covered, I would probably think that you would be free to augment the collection with whatever suits you.

   I would consider a high capacity rifle or carbine a good addition. However, unless all the other areas of your preps are handled, I don’t think I would be able to justify a decked out $1500 AR-15. There’s a place for those pieces in any collection but that’s after the food supply and other “keeps ya alive” areas have been shored up, at least in my opinion.

   I’ll take you back with me to my passionate 20′s once again… I was completely into squirreling away as many high capacity weapons as possible… MANY thousands of rounds of ammo and all the logistics to keep a small army running equipped. I truly believed that this is what would be necessary to keep our country free. Voices of respected older relatives where dismissed when they tried to help me see the error in my thinking. I recall one specific word of advise, that a good man with a hunting rifle and ability to use it could do far more for the cause of freedom than an army of passionate young men playing batman in the boondocks could… I couldn’t see it then but I can now!

   I suspect that most of the readers here already have their basic level and probably the second, third and fourth string firearms as well. For the newer and more cost sensitive preppers, I would suggest not over looking those additional hunting rifles. Maybe spend some discretionary money on a rifle that is built to be more robust. Pick a good quality rifle with the approach of turning it into a solid long range tack driver. I would even consider selecting a second rifle of the same make as your first “Basic” hunting rifle. This would give you parts compatibility -”Two is one and one is none”.

   As usual, we could go round and round arquing this topic. All I can say from experience is that having a firearm is better than not having a  firearm. Those basic level guns will take care of nearly any credible need or threat. After that, it’s all frosting on the cake!

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Question #2 -     “How long do I give the economy before – game over?”

   We had a pretty dark week here at Preppernation last week. Even considering the fact that we all have some times that we might see the situation as worse than it truly might be, last week wasn’t one of those for me. I actually think we have come to an ending of sorts for our nation.

   Unless, something major were to change in our nation… We’re running right at a brick wall or maybe for the edge of a cliff would be a better analogy. I think that we are at a precarious time in history that will only be clear when it’s reviewed in whatever books are eventually written about what we are seeing first hand. With the exception of something like this whole cap-n-trade debacle creating one last artificial bubble, I can’t see where the money will come from to even begin to fund the obligations that our nation is already on the hook for.

   Politicians would have to stop spending and make significant/strategic budget cuts before I would give us more than a year or two on the outside. Human nature and especially political nature has run to far a muck to expect that the leadership available to us, currently in power or standing on the sidelines, will make any of these changes.

   I’m still waiting for someone to step forward and explain the error in my thought process! I think we are at “Game Over” now. So that’s the answer to this question, in its most basic form!

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Question #3 -     “What about traps and snares for taking small game?”

   I like the idea! I can’t remember if we’ve discussed this topic in a previous post or not? We’re at the 6 month mark and I’ve started to loose track of what we’ve looked at and what’s new to preppernation…

   Anyway, like I said, I like the idea of using traps and snares for taking the small game that will hopefully still be in abundance after we collectively take the plunge! I plan to implement these tools widely around my BOL.

   Shamefully, I have to admit that like so many other things in my preppers tool chest, I have yet to get them out and become proficient. Many of you will probably recall seeing ads on the survival websites for a website called “Buckshots Camp”? This man was and I believe still is a professional trapper. Meaning that he provides himself an income from the trade.

   Buckshot had a series of DVD’s he put out on trapping and snaring. I purchased these and a supply of his #10 conibear traps and a few dozen snares in a variety of small to medium sizes. I watched the DVD’s and did try out one of the traps on a couple of occasions. The DVD’s were made by Buckshot himself and were not of good quality. However, the content was VERY good and you could see that this guy was or is the real McCoy, his techniques worked and would be replicable.

   My attempts at using the traps were aimed at an offensive skunk or skunks that had taken up residence under a cabin at my original bug out location. Each time I set the traps and left them overnight I would come back to find squirrels in them. This leads me to believe first, that these traps do work and will work for me. Second, that skunks aren’t as dumb as squirrels and will require additional tactics to relocate!

   I have the gear but lack the skills to feel confident in my abilities! As long as this real estate market keeps inching along than I’ll be able to keep my doors open and thus have a very limited amount of time to devote to new skills. Having the equipment is alright but I do hope to develop a margin of success at using them before the time came to need to rely on them for food production.

   I would recommend seeking out a supply of these tools and taking the time to become proficient. The traps will catch the animals and are reusable for ever as long as they are not abused. I have a large supply of .22 caliber ammunition but it’s not endless, these traps will come handy if society takes it’s time getting back on its feet! Plan accordingly!

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   Thanks to all the folks that have emailed me over the last couple of days in support of the topics I’ve been covering. I appreciate the feedback. I haven’t been able to respond to each email individually yet but I will try to get back to each of you! We are really in this together and I think there is a kindred spirit that we all need to acknowledge.

   I’m going to do another “Reader Question” post today as there is one email in particular that I would like to address. This will be a long answer and I will probably only cover this one question today…

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QUESTION  -     “Why do a lot of my posts seem to be almost un-American or at least less than patriotic? Do I secretly have a problem with my country and plan to use preppernation.com as a pulpit to bash America?”

   As I have promised, I will not out any of my readers on this website. I do appreciate the fact many people take their OPSEC seriously. However, unlike many emails I get from hecklers, this gentleman did give his name and so I will address his question with the respect it deserves. I believe the spirit of the question is sincere or I wouldn’t give him the satisfaction of a response! So here goes…

  The short answer to your question is that my posts may seem unpatriotic because I’m being honest in how I approach what’s happening in our country. It does no one any good to sugar coat the fact that we have issues. We are all living under a system that isn’t being honest with us. We are given a set of rules to play by and or a road map that is suppose to guide us to the destination we desire that is at best deceptive and at worst, fraudulent. 

   In the same vein as yesterdays post, we have a gift as preppers that allows us to see the world from a slightly different perspective. I believe we are a little more aware than many of our fellow Americans. Does this make us un-American? Absolutely not! I think it makes us better Americans, the kind that won’t be as easily fooled into what I call “Herd Think”, believing whatever the idiot box tells us.

   As preppers, we are prone to asking WHY? Why is this happening? Why do I believe this? Why should I do it that way? I remember with pride learning about the people that came to America or even “The New World”, before it was America. These were hardy folks that I bet had this same question on their lips, even before they arrived on these shores. Why does it have to be the way YOU say? They were unhappy with the status quo and decided to act on this feeling and make a new life for themselves and their families.

   These immigrants or settlers, depending on what the historical time frame was, didn’t act outside the law or even go against the grain. This country was full of free thinking individualists. This is the type of person I am and hope all of you are as well. We have the ability to create our own destiny guided by our own goals. If this is contrary to what your beliefs are, I can see why you might suspect me of being anti-American!

   Has anything I’ve written suggested I would advocate breaking any law? I don’t think so, as that isn’t something I would encourage. Each of us has to make our own decisions but we have all the room we need to become self- reliant and or self-sufficient, while working inside all the laws I’m aware of!

   My goal with this website is to encourage each of us to always push for more freedom. Freedom from the government systems of support. WHY, because we don’t need them and they don’t make us more free, they enslave us. When I was growing up my father had a saying and it only makes more sense as the years go by… He would tell me – “Never let the government do anything for you that you’re capable of doing yourself because if you do, they will no longer allow you to do it for yourself!” These words ring true over and over as I see and hear the non-sense that is BLASTED at us everyday through the mainstream media.

   Each day I post an idea or short article to help instigate thought! Definitely not to instigate anti-American sentiment. It is very American to honor freedom and self-reliance. I believe that this current economic situation will be solved, eventually… When we, AMERICA, emerge on the other side we will have had a chance to regain a foundation of what is truly important. Hopefully, McMansions and the ever growing urban sprawl will be replaced with a renewed honor of family. I would like to see our American traditions restored and when that happens I believe we will see a reunited American populous with new energy and national pride.

   Freedom is our National Treasure, it needs to be protected. We are all suppose to be free to succeed or fail without the interference of the government. We have a government and I dare say even a large percent of the population that want to have everyone be taken care of cradle to grave… Not me brother, get out of my way and let me do it myself. In this respect I do have a problem with my country, I don’t like the direction its going!

  Do I advocate a revolution – yes, but not in the sense that a lot of “Preppers” do! The revolution I seek is a silent, non-violent one! One that all can participate in. It’s a freedom revolution, one that will be waged inside the law. By removing ourselves from the systems, simply opting out of their game, at every opportunity. By doing this we are denying the system what it requires… US, meaning our participation and taxes… Just stop playing, pay what you must but don’t give anything additional. We have legal ways to opt out, as simple as buying second hand over new or via the internet instead of local, avoiding the sales tax where ever it is LEGAL to do so. Every dollar that isn’t inserted into the system, starves the system.

   I do hope that this post clarifies my position, I see myself as an American Patriot and I’m proud of what my country really stands for, even if it isn’t being properly represented in todays government. I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t others that might have questioned these same things about me and preppernation.com, if there is one person that has misunderstood, there are usually more. I actually want to thank the person that asked this question as it gives me the opportunity to make sure we are all on the same page. So -Thank You! I want to encourage anyone else that has a question, speak up and lets talk about it even if we may disagree…

Prepper